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Discussion in 'Looking to Rehome' started by Klyde, Jul 31, 2020 at 4:52 AM.

  1. Klyde

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  2. by Paul "Mclaneinc" Irvine
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    I have just passed out...800 EU...Wow....I expect that is classed as a fair price?
     
  3. Klyde

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    It may sound odd, but yes, it is a fair price, as Falcons generally worth more than one thousand euros...
     
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  4. by Paul "Mclaneinc" Irvine
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    Only had an ST for 1 day and wasn't fan but I so rarely see Falcons up on any site, hence the price I guess...Looks like a bargain for someone in the money...

    They better get it before lockdown is reintroduced...
     
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  5. Graham

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    It appears to be a good price with the MIDI interfaces included, there rare however think they can only be used on ST Range The Falcon betting oh so much better than many earlier ones.
     
  6. by Paul "Mclaneinc" Irvine
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    Being a gamer and tinkerer I found the ST etc range more productivity based, the games looked nicer but with no sprites (bar the pointer), no hardware scrolling and a simple noise generator chip it was seeing Joust looking sharper but sounding worse :)

    I then went to a show and there was Insanity Flight on an Amiga, a Goldrunner clone (if you can clone Goldrunner which is derivative) and there was silky smooth scrolling, display list / copper list rainbow colours, sampled speech and proper sound effects...I knew the course I was taking :)

    One Action Replay later and I was firmly hooked..

    It's all personal though, myself and Jason / TMR on AA had a fellow work college called Rob who was a full on Atari Fanboy, no other machines ever, he was like a person who had won the lottery when he got a Falcon030, no machine come even sit near it...

    Must admit I don't understand brand fanboyism, there's great stuff on lots of machines, why limit yourself?
     
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  7. Graham

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    Hi Paul
    Very true, I enjoy the Atari 8 bits very much, and followed on from owning a Sinclair Spectrum. I truly leant a lot, including Assembly language on the Z80, and it really helped in my early career, so no issues with that. I've found in storage two spectrums, not sure if they work or not, I guess I should at least see, would I use it, not very much, if at all.
    Am I fan boy of Atari ... NO don’t particularly like the ST range as an example (well I don’t mind what it looked like, as I rather like the XE Range)
    So where do I sit, well in my case I love the hardware side of things and being able to update an design additional items, one thing I really need to sort out is 6502 Assembler, Much of what I did in my early years was hampered by not really learning to code on the Atari's something I regret, and it's not as if I couldn't program, just it being on a different platform(CPU)
    I now own a few BBC ‘B’ computers now, and although I've only repaired one fully, I've liked the fact you can include Assembler within BASIC programs so easily, I just wish Atari's BASIC was as good when it came to this.
    I will admit to liking the 6502 CPU just remember when this was released the 6502 and 1MHz clock was about the equivalent to Intel 8088 at about 2MHz
    So an Atari running at 1.79MHz not that slow, more like a half speed IBM PC with its 16 bit CPU
    The PC advantage came with memory available and the inevitable updates to the CPU's by Intel
    MOS didn't do this excepting the 65c812 and similar. Even Motorola bowed out in the race to the fastest chips, starting with 68008, 68000 --, with the fastest being the 68060 then they stopped, Intel and others using the same instruction set such an AMD & Cyrix etc. have taken that to almost extreme now.
    Witness AMD RYZEN Threadripper CPU’s

    https://www.reddit.com/r/retrobattl...sting_if_mos_6502_atari_800xl_is_faster_than/

    I guess I like PC's I have a awful lot of them .. all used for production like software.. no games
    But not for that same reasons as I like the Atari 8 Bits
     
  8. by Paul "Mclaneinc" Irvine
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    I can get my head around 6502 until the maths starts getting hard and I've already said I played with its 16bit cousin, the 65C816 because I loved cheating the Snes games...Anything else is foreign to me..

    Like you the PC is used for doing stuff like emulation, internet and music processing, I don't play PC games on it as its an old boy with not enough graphic power for today's eye candy..What I do like is normally out on the PS4 and I wait till its dead cheap and see what's in my pocket..Usually coppers...

    And on that note I got my MOT reminder which now obliterates my cash, going to have to sk the in laws for help as I bet there's some niggle that needs fixing...So no Sophia 2 for me, sorry old man, have to cancel, the car is essential because of my mobility..

    Many apologies..
     
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  9. M.D.Baker

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    As I've mentioned before somewhere, I was a fanboy of Atari, back in the day, but that was more about supporting Atari to keep them alive when the competition between Commodore, and on the console side competition from Sega and Nintendo and later Sony when the Jaguar was around. But once Atari and Commodore went belly-up, I saw no reason to be a fanboy any more since there was no company to support. That's when my fanboyism disappeared and I started to get interested in Commodore and Sega machines and enjoy them for what they are, even if I still prefer the Atari machines, the others have been welcomed to my family for the last 20+ years.

    When I got into ST's and Amiga's for a few short years in the early 2000's, neither of which I owned when they were a going concern, I discovered I preferred the Amiga's over the ST's generally, and then when I started learning about the engineering teams behind the machines, I totally dropped the name-brand fanboyism completely in favor of engineer fanboyism. For that reason the Atari 8-bit and Amiga have a special place in my heart because Jay Minor gained a special place in my heart. I want a C64 and will get it one day, but it will be second to my Atari 8-bits always.

    ST's I could care less about, But the Falcon I really liked for the time I had it, before it went into storage and then was stolen. I do want a Falcon again, but only because it was a gift from a close friend and I feel a desperate need to replace it, for the sake of my friend. I still haven't told him I lost the Falcon and hope to replace it so I don't have too, as I promised him I'd never sell it or get rid of it. But the prices for them have become ridiculous, in the thousands in U.S. dollars, and I think translated to dollars this one is still north of the $1000 range, but a deal I would jump on, IF I had the money for it right now, which I don't.

    Maybe I'll get lucky if and when the second U.S. stimulus money comes through, and find one I can get for $1000 or less, but being out of work due to truck issues and not knowing how large the second stimulus might be yet, I may still not have the money as there are other things I need too, for my business when I restart it.

    By the way, I know some of you had asked; my *new* 4x4 Blazer is running now, and running good, but when I took it for a test drive I found out one of the front brakes was seized (when it started on fire!!) . I replaced the rotor, caliper and pads, but it still seizes up, so now I'm waiting on a new brake line to arrive since I suspect the old one might be collapsed. If that turns out not to be the problem, then it has to be the anti-lock braking system I look at next. However, even though I no little about ABS, I'd think if it is bad then all the brakes would seize up or not engage properly, so I'm thinking the brake line is the issue...I could be wrong however. So that's my vehicle situation at this point. I was borrowing a car from a friend for a couple of months, but gave it back when I got my sister car running again. So we have at least one working vehicle and hopefully two again soon. Then next comes getting my mother's car working again, which might even need a new motor...and eventually I still hope to get my old truck up and running, but after a year of trouble-shooting it and replacing dozens of parts and still not running, I had to get something else and take a break from it.
     
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  10. Graham

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    Hi Matt
    Sorry to hear of your ongoing transport issues.
    When it comes to ABS, like you know little but I did have a problem that sounds a little like yours. in was on a Vauxhall so a GM base. The front left brake wouldn't release so driving normally all o.k. for a bit then stopped went to pull away and the brake would drag and over heat.
    Seemed to right itself a bit later on then repeat. All hoses and pipes o.k. and seemed to be the ABS valve block. Removed the attached electronics module thinking it was playing up no different, had already bled brakes so I knew was related to that.
    In my case I took the valve body off disconnected from all the pipe work cleaned outside with carburettor cleaner with ports blocked off, so spotlessly clean on the outside, I opened the valve body. I was very lucky as in my case a piece of dirt was stuck in one of the valves, cleaned whole of inside, replacing each valve after a good clean and dowsed in new brake fluid, all the original parts and seals used; bolted back together, re fitted and bled and thankfully solved the issue.

    A new valve body was circa $1000 on a car that was worth maybe $2000 at the time, although I may have been able to get one from a scrap yard.
    I hope its not this; but at least be encouraged that you maybe able to fix it; If it is.
     

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