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  1. by Timothy Kline
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  2. by M.D.Baker
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    I always dreamed of having one, since I first heard of them, just like the the ICD MIO or the Black Box, or even those HDD's for the 800 that connect via controller ports 3 & 4 (what were they called again?).

    But with the much cheaper modern devices that are more reliable it just doesn't make sense, to me, to pay the high prices for the legacy HDD solutions.

    By the same token, since I happened to come across the CA 2001 with CP/M and the dIndus drives I bought from your Timothy, I just can't justify an ATR 8000 either, as it's redundant, for what I need. I know it has more to it than just CP/M, but there's nothing I need the ability for standardized peripherals on my Atari either, since it's also all legacy stuff I just don't need at this point.

    I've resigned myself to have a couple great Atari systems with lots of bells and whistles, but nothing I won't put to use, no more "for collection purposes only" beyond some stuff I already have that will sit behind glass. That might change one day, if I come into a situation with a lot of disposable income. I still spend an average of a couple hundred a month for this hobby as it is, that really isn't disposable income, but I scrimp in other areas to afford a few frivalities.

    Have fun spending on your hobby, Tim, but maybe a little more diversity in your collection? Isn't there any Atari 8-bit related device that you don't have already?
     
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    Me? I'm MORE than all set with my hoard, actually!! :rolleyes:

    I do still use my ATR-8000 occasionally (I don't have the Indus GT solution at this point), but every time I see a unit go for over $300 I wonder if I should keep my pair of 8000s or not. The second one is a backup unit here, of course. I don't use the 8000 that much at all. Especially compared to how often I need $300. o_O :jawdrop:

    In any case, no, I have not and do not expect to be spending ANY additional funds on my Atari interests in the foreseeable future. I simply have no need to. If ANYthing, I need to rehome most of the hoard because it is pretty much being stored and preserved but little else. :sorry:

    What I am reluctant to do is to price everything at garage-sale pricing and give it all away, essentially. In my mind, it makes far more sense to hold onto things, knowing what it cost me to adopt this or that. I'd almost prefer to donate it to Goodwill or something and then claim the tax deduction over rehoming things at fire-sale and gimme-cheap prices. :eek:

    But yeah, I am ABUNDANTLY set with Atari items here. :loopy:

    On top of that, I still have a drawer full of Lotharek and other mods to install and enjoy. :facepalm:

    --Tim
     
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  4. by M.D.Baker
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    Well, my piece of advice on the ATR 8000's you already have; more than once I have thought it a good time to sell items for a good price, and just a couple years later, I find I could have sold those items for 2, 3, 4 times or more than the going price when they sold. This also makes me think twice not just over possible monies lost, but that if I do sell something, I myself will probably never afford to buy it back for what I sell it for, should I miss it. Money is fleeting, Atari is for life.

    I know you have to still feel the pain of sacrificing all those 1200's for a small fraction of what they were worth! The only consolation is who and what they went too. Go for top dollar, you deserve it. You've given and discounted enough away already.
     
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    Agreed!

    I did see a guy on Atari Age sell his recently for $100. A great price, but I value mine at a much higher number-- especially since I know they work already. :cigar:

    --Tim
     
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  6. by Paul "Mclaneinc" Irvine
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    I was talking to Andy the other day and I'm still squabbling with myself over what to do with extra kit, my issue is its ok to have a spare but why keep extra's but like Tim I don't want to give them away but I do want them to be used rather than sitting on top of a wardrobe..

    As Baz knows I'm generous, I swapped good kit with people or simply sent stuff for others to use but we all need a bit of money as I do now, I say need, I mean it would be handy rather than NEED but I still have heartfelt pangs re losing all my stuff.

    A really circular issue :)
     
  7. by M.D.Baker
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    Circular issue, yes Paul. I like to give stuff away when I can afford too (like the 1200/800XL's I'm going to give away), and I can afford too these last few years, but there have been times when I needed money and that's when I turn to eBay for top-dollar. I only like eBay when I'm selling, since it's a sellers market there. I haven't sold much in recent years, partly because I hadn't needed the extra money, but also because my collection, after selling most of it off by about 2010, I desperately wanted to keep the rest. I have never sold off something unless I was desperate for money.

    In recent years I've been on the receiving end so I've been able to slowly build a small collection again between gifts and my purchases. The 1200XL to you and the 800XL to my friend Danny (who I will beg to join our little group here once he has Atari 8-bit hardware back in his hands), are going to be the last of the big gifts to go out, then I'll just keep what I have and enjoy it until my dying day. I'll be left with 2 1200XL's and the 800 Tim gave me, which is enough for Atari computers for me.

    Smaller gifts will continue be given, like the SDrive Max I intend to give to Danny with the 800XL since that will be his only means of loading stuff and transferring from PC to Atari. I also have a second SDrive Max that I haven't put together yet, that initially I planned on keeping for myself, but with the MyIDE II and Incogito CF drives I really don't need it. I don't have a case for it yet though...I could send it along with the 1200XL as-is if you want @Paul "Mclaneinc" Irvine , if you can use it...assembly required.
     
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  8. by Paul "Mclaneinc" Irvine
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    Matt you are a good man with a good heart, I have an SD-Max so it should go to a more deserving person, I thank you for the offer but like you I have no need for it so it's needs a better home.

    As for Ebay, I've not sold anything on it ever, as with people on here I always offer any kit I have spare to people or would give them first dibbs at it with realistic prices, good old mates rates but if I had something super rare I'd be tempted to go the Ebay route as I might do with some of Bob's old records. I'm not a money person at heart, I carry zero cash on me, my wife handles the money except where I'll pay a bill over the internet etc, she's not an internet or computer person. She has the brains just not the like of it, she is like me and would be happy 30 years ago.
     
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    I have made the mistake of getting into tight spots financially and selling some of my kit off and taking a hit on how much I spent building it up to raise some quick cash and then spending more money down the line buying some more to replace it again as I miss having it. Sadly some of the kit is beyond what I can afford to replace it now but hey-ho I did get to play with it once and it’s not like I only have one 8-Bit here at Chez Farrell.
    Thankfully I have finally figured it out now and have stopped doing it. I think when I pop my clogs I have asked Sonia to donate it all to the National Museum of Computing, she won’t use it and I certainly won’t need it anymore. Hopefully won’t be for a good while yet.
     
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  10. by Paul "Mclaneinc" Irvine
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    To quote a certain TV series, live long and prosper...
     
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    Being single with no children (especially a son who would most likely be more interested) single guy and I don't believe anyone in my family, like nephews or younger brother are interested in any of my old "electronic junk." I've been contemplating whether to find an orginzation or construct to donate them too, or just leave it all to family, just making sure they know that they could probably get $10 or $20 Grand if as an inheritance if they bother to sell at the going eBay prices, and it's not just old junk to be discarded.

    I have two nephews, about 30 and 35 now, who may come to grips with nostalgia in years to come though, as I was the closest thing to a father figure they had with a twice-divorced single mother whom ex's were only step-fathers, and poor ones at that (my sister always had terrible taste in men and little self-esteem). As children I visited and lived with them for a time, and of course, I had them playing the Atari 8-bit, 7800, Lynx and Jaguar growing up, and gave them a 7800 and Atari computer for game systems.I have two other nephews from my older brother, whom I gave a Lynx too as well, and also introduced them to the Jaguar on an extended visit once, after college. So they could end up fighting over who gets what after I'm gone. It's just that none of them show any interest in old systems from their youth as of yet.
     
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    Yeah Matt, I have a niece who is in her early twenties and has no interest in computers or computing. My nephew is only just a teenager and a big gamer but he is into Nintendo Switch, Xbox One or PC gaming. I have shown him various Atari kit from the 2600 to ST but he thinks it’s a novelty rather than a serious interest and I don’t see that changing any time soon. He would probably sell it all on eBay to buy a new gaming rig.
    So with no kids of our own there is no one to leave it to I thought it would be better left to the museum, they may not keep all ( or any ) of it but they have a better idea of value and any money generated will fund the upkeep of the museum. Hopefully it will be a few years yet and my collection will go up in value as I try to keep them in working condition.
     
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    I salute you guys and all that you aim to do with your old kit - I'm in a very similar boat as we have no kiddies and the cat (despite numerous games of Rat Splat) shows zero interest in the Oric(!), just the laptop power pack as it warms the area where he likes to stretch out!!

    My nephew and niece are just not gamers or computer bods at all so wouldn't appreciate the gear. My mate's son, Patrick might, so come the time, I might let him have some/sell some and the rest, like you point out, Rich, would be better off going to the National Computer Museum if Bev can't be doing with the bother of selling me Beeb tapes...

    (and, let's be honest, who would?!)
     
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    I've two daughters both grown up eldest Loves macbooks ever since Uni, (I dont blame her they are very very well made, just expensive for what you get) youngest no interest in computers just a commodity or tool for work.
    I've inherited a grandson, He loves games and for about a month used a retro pi I'd fitted in a case that resembled a SNES. however someone bought him a Nintendo switch, dont think its been used since.
    His 9 great at math, been teaching him to work on his time tables , good upto 16x now, I guess with modern computers I'd better tell him to work on his 128x &256x tables to be ready for the 128bit and 256bit revolution .. :)
     
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    Always nice to read a parent / grandparent educating kids, so many people these days let their kids go dumb. When the kids in these blocks were young I'd sit outside (they always thought of me as a big kid) and tutor them in whatever I knew about. Hated seeing them just think of themselves as council estate kids that won't achieve much.

    Must have done some good, 3 of them are now in Uni and 2 have management based jobs. One is writing his thesis on Covid and his mum told him he should just work in a gym as an instructor, I told him to think bigger and apply himself more, he would pop down and ask me a million and one questions, some of which I could answer, some not but now he's a very happy young man and his mum even thanked me.

    So all power to you Graham, shame about the Snes being abandoned, brilliant little console that, just retrobrighted my USA one, bottom went beige (known issue) but its a lot more grey now.
     
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    Well thats nice to hear Paul, Its good when you can help others , and athough technically not and educator as such, I recieved some kind of training in presenting, not so much as in front of a hord of bodies (although that was part of my work) but at class type level, trying to pass on knowledge to others.
     
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    Although I taught special needs children I'd hardly call myself an educator but I've had times where I've been elected as one. When I was unemployed I did an NVQ just to pass some time, twas Computer Help and Support, as basic a course as you could do but it soon became clear that I knew a lot more than the tutor (slightly shocking). Before long I was excluded from answering questions and spent more time tutoring the others which at least kept my interest up and the men and women really enjoyed me helping them. I'm not really a public speaker but managed to pass on some bits and bobs. John the tutor liked it as he had less to do and a bit of support in the class.

    Could not see me doing it full time though, too many people who were sent on the course who had no interest in the subject, it just saved them signing on for a while.

    These days I hate being pushed out into the front of groups, stresses the hell out of me..Thankfully I don't get asked much..
     
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    My I'll call it public speaking, was I'd say a setup

    I was happy as a manager to address my staff at team meeting and so on, and three of us (managers) used to combine the meeting from three teams each of us taking on different bit of the meeting and delivering it to all the teams maybe a 80-90 staff but knowing all of them.

    However I had been asked to be a school governor, just after my children’s school had an Ofsted inspection, during which the head teacher resigned half way though, not an especially good indication.

    I ended up with a particular role, and having carried this out (it was an experiment at county level) I was invited by county via our new Head teacher to a small group at the teacher training centre to explain how it had gone; benefits to school etc.etc.

    This turned out to be an assembly of approx 100+ Head teachers and Deputies, with a few other governors thrown in.

    Talk about in at the deep end...

    It did however help as I became confident in front of a large crowds, as later in my work for Ericsson I ended up giving lectures and presentations to Uni's with a view of recruiting new engineering staff.
     
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    Sod that :)

    While a manager at Maplin we had managers meetings and you were expected to do a short presentation of your stores year, thankfully it would be regional so only the southern end of the country so fewer people. Staff wise it was only about 8 people at most in the shop and that was easy.

    We were asked to become governors at my daughters school but buy then my head had been well and truly messed up so declined..

    Could not have handled what you did, even when my head was right I was never the party animal or the pack leader, I've always been the person who wants a quiet time.
     
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    As it was a Church school, I guess you could call it a baptism of fire...
    :ROFL:
    Although wasn't funny at the time
     
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    I went to a church school in Belfast, hell on earth..Nun's tied my hand behind my back because I was then, left handed...
     
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    WOW not something they would get away with nowadays .. mine you Esther Rantzen had a lot to do with the decline in behaviour in schools, not directly but as her partition to abolish any form of corporal punishment.

    Do you remain a lefty? it’s not as though you can re wire you brain is it ...

    Lucky I'm ambidextrous to a point, can use most tools with either hand; screw drivers cutlery and saws included, has helped in many an awkward spot..
    I can even shoot left-handed, but have to close right eye due to right eye dominance.
     
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    Thankfully after coming home with bruises all over my left hand from being hit with a ruler edge first, my mother took me out of the school.

    I also became ambidextrous, play pool left handed, play darts right handed, I'm more right than left in writing but everything else I use both..

    My daughter comments on me swapping knife and fork all the time, the worse thing was that it destroyed my handwriting, Doctors would be proud of my scribbles :)
     
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    Ops I do that all the time hehe.
     
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    That's weird guys...
    I'm completely right handed... but eat as if I'm LEFT handed.
    Folks comment on how peculiar that is and I say "If you think that's strange..." as they then suddenly leave the table when I bring an Oric up...(literally!!)
     
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