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What is really going on?

Discussion in 'SIG: General Chat' started by Paul "Mclaneinc" Irvine, May 2, 2020.

  1. by Paul "Mclaneinc" Irvine
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    Took my daughter to get a blood test done re her tummy problems (due to have a endoscopy AND colonoscopy when this clears up). So we go to Northwick Park hospital and I say to her that I bet its like a ghost town in there and sure enough she was in and out in 10 mins, most of that walking to the blood test area. And yes, it was indeed like a ghost town, staff standing around do diddly squat which of course is not their fault and to be honest I was glad to see it because normally the same people are rushed off their feet and doing the work of two people.

    But here's the issue I have, we all were warned that the thought was the NHS could not cope and were getting retired doctors and nurses to return to help with the flood and yet there never was a flood, quite the opposite in fact.

    Now I know many folk are terrified of going to hospital incase they don't come out alive but in reality the risk factor in hospital is so low to ordinary people its daft. People are banned from wards and the corona wards are secure.

    How much has and is costing the british taxpayer?

    The whole NHS thing has been a horrendous bad joke, we could have brought ventilators at sensible prices with the EU bulk buy deal but good old Boris and co just wanted to 'do it the British way' and avoid them, just stupid and then we end up talking to Dyson to make them, no doubt at silly money. Worse still, almost NONE of them were needed.

    Now I accept "better safe than sorry" but look at the whole process so far, its been a complete balls up and still levels of death are around the same as most years and we are still world wide labelling anything as COVID 19 when its just normal deaths.

    No one wants to see dead people (except the Haley Joel Osmet, the kid from the Sixth Sense) but it happens every minute of the day and yet this Virus has been labelled a game changer and has put the whole world in debt and destroyed lives yet its seen to be killing a whole lot less than was predicted and re remain in Lockup (because that's what it is) staring out the window like lemons and seeing almost no terrible effects on life bar on the TV.

    What gets me is the Lockup, its destroyed business after business yet places that did not do this lockdown actually have less death than those that did lockdown. To be honest its in my opinion contributing to the death rate purely on the stress its causing and amazing by 'chance' when we stress out badly we produce these exosomes which are IDENTICAL to covid 19 but yet these exosomes are classed as helpful to the body as a defense mechanism but genuinely are exactly the same in their makeup, cel for cell.

    I prefer facts and logic to conspiracy stuff but none of this sits well, we as people will not be the same even after the lockup is lifted, we have become trained to fear fellow people, to stand in line, to fear money. They are now even talking about doing away with cash, expressing the risks it has yet since when has in our history has it caused to been linked to something like this and as we all know cash is filthy, half of its got trace cocaine and the rest has faeces ( or shite for the Scots here) on it but yet even with all this its never happened before but now after this whatever it is the call has instantly gone up to remove cash. Now those of us that follow politics etc know that removing cash has been an aim of most governments worldwide for years but the mechanism to do it is incredibly complex but suddenly a worldwide situation happens, predicted by Gates, Obama, Bush etc almost to the day and as a pandemic virus, the worlds finances are crippled, people are squabbling for money yet the shops are prioritising card payments and cash is being called dangerous.

    You decide what you think but its undeniable that there's a smell in the room and it aint me for once..
     
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    I likewise have felt, right from the off, that something's odd here, Paul.

    I totally get where you're coming from and none of it seems to add up.

    It's as if this, for me - and I'm hand on heart NO usual conspiracy story lover or even have any interest in such matters normally - is a cover for something else, so I get Paul's concerns.

    It's like "We've got Big Problem X to solve and there's no way in the world our citizens will buy it so what do we do that will achieve the same net effect? How about telling them that there's a pandemic in which case they will be more liable to..."

    Hey, I've no idea at all and I might 2nd guess at some attempt to save mankind and the ecosystem from imminent global collapse due to greenhouse gas emissions/rising sea levels/species extinction and god knows what else we've been receiving dire warnings about for decades now... who really knows?

    As Paul points out, it's really like lots of things seem to be totally arse about tit and don't really pan out or add up to what the so-called experts reckon and why are they going to such extreme lengths to close down all economic activities to stop... well, like Paul says really, stop what?

    IMHO, I don't buy the menace that this thing is supposed to be, but there you go - it's just my opinion and if I was an older guy with chronic existing health problems then of course I would naturally have a much more cautious and pessimistic outlook towards its ease of spread, so who knows. I don't but I do take Paul's points and they do make us all think.
     
  3. by Paul "Mclaneinc" Irvine
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    Thanks Baz, like you I am definitely NOT a mad conspiracy person, people like David Icke worry me to be honest, he does say the odd thing that makes sense but in between all that there's so much madness its hard to take anything seriously so I don't. Are there elites who run the planet, well yes, it does not take a genius to see that, people like The Bushes, The Clintons, Gates, George Soros ALL have a say in how it works simply because of the money and influence they have, that simply is the way of the world and not a conspiracy.

    So its no surprise to hear their names turn up in every event in current times and normally in a bad way.

    All the talk now is about a vaccine and what does Gates have humongous power in and promoting for all to see, vaccines, add to that he has made it very openly known he wants to ID people via his ID2020 strategy, again something that is out there for all to see, the advert makes it seem like the best thing in the world. But that's where people would be wrong, just look at what it offers and what the cost is, no passports, you just get bleeped through, no ID needed, its all in you, GPS tracked, just in case you get lost (yeah right) but then the dodgy stuff as if tracking you isn't bad, the plan to have your finances as part of this implant, digital money, some crazy link to bitcoin but in a way that they control.

    Sounds like sci fi madness but its out there in Gates adverts and a real proposition. This is what he wants and he is at the epicentre of the vaccine business.

    As for the virus, just why blame covid on everything and by rushed in rulings, if any part of the illness has to do with breathing issues its now covid but you tell me an illness that does not affect breathing. Why the rush to name it all covid?

    Well you might just do that if you had an agenda of change and look at the news and the papers, prepare for a new way of living your life, prepare for a new way of working, prepare for a new way of relaxing, why?

    This is a virus, isn't it?

    Why should we need to change all this, we have spent half of this century making the world a safer place to live in, we have had Spanish Flu and got past it, we have had AIDS and Ebola and both of those are far more deadly than this virus despite the way its been reported, both are toxically far more deadly with a much higher outcome of death and no recovery and yet this flu like thing is changing how we live.

    Personally I think there's way more to this than is being shown, just in what we can see happening is just way more than the result of a pandemic, death numbers changings, result graphs changing showing previous years being suddenly much less than before so the impact looks bigger, why would that data change, its been perfectly unchallenged up to now and suddenly 2017 takes a cut...

    What is the upshot of all this, I don't know but there bucket loads of BS shifting around, just the nonsense around Boris is odd, "oh he's sitting up and laughing" and now "I was so close to death", really, what difference would it have made to know he was badly ill, almost nothing to most people, would it destabilise the country knowing the serial shagger and buffoon was ill, sure people would have felt sorry for him and I';m sure many would have prayed but in the face of things nothing would have ground to a halt.

    So why say he was ok when not or why say he was at deaths door when he wasn't, you take your pick, I know which one ticks an agenda box more.

    Again, I'm NOT trivialising the virus or what ever it is, people are scared stiff and well they should be but tests that can prove a negative when you have it and tests that can say you have it when you don't based on how the immune system works, kind of strange in all this technological mastery that we still have not isolated the virus and work on the basis of cells that just happen to also get produced naturally under duress and have done since the day any of us have been born. So were we born with the virus, if yes then why has it not triggered before, remember these cells they check for are 100% identical to naturally included cells in our body and that's fact. So the story is that we are catching cells that just happen to also be in our body already and have never triggered anything and are there to repair us.

    Kind of weird, has someone altered these cells in a chimera process, well governments do work on these idea's, one of bird flus many strains was laboratory created, we know that as a fact and the work that was being done in Wuhan was from the US and funded by them, again we know this from public records, 3.7 billion in funding.

    That I find extremely disturbing, its like looking for a needle in a haystack and not revealing the location of the haystack to search. The science side of this looks woefully messed up.
     
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